xxxc
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Post by xxxc on Sept 12, 2007 12:38:28 GMT -5
Yorkville's times at Westmont invite: Tanis 16:34 Sliwa 16:40 Pape 16:40 Austin 16:50 Addison 16:56 Score 15 points, :22 second split I'm not taking anything away from ACC, because they do have young talent, but how can Yorkville beat ACC, Burlington Central, Wheaton A. at this invite with a perfect score of 15 and not even be mentioned in this convo. of top sectional teams. Another good test for us will be at ACC invite in two weeks. Hands down, Sycamore is the top team to beat, but all this talk doesn't matter when the gun goes off, anything can happen. Good luck to everyone and have a healthy season. Yorkville is clearly a top sectional team. Admittedly, I haven't seen results on everyone, but with what I've seen, Yorkville is a top 5 or 6 team statewide. Along with them, I like Sycamore (duh), Rock Island Alleman, Metamora, Springfield Sacred-Heart, and Kaneland. But you're right, Runningmuth, the talk doesn't mean much -- let the guns begin.
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 17:02:47 GMT -5
and by the way sycamore isnt guarenteed their sectional because when i was at woodruff i heard that lemont wasnt running their #2 b/c he was sick so i think they havent seen lemont full potential i run #2 for lemont. yes i have been pretty much out of all but 1 race this season. i wasnt allowed to run 100% on that one either. but saturday is the argo invite and lemont will be running full force. and sycamore isnt even in our sectional
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 17:04:39 GMT -5
moocher, we run against tinley park and they have no quality runners
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Post by xcrunner30 on Sept 12, 2007 17:13:15 GMT -5
so how many years you been coaching? thirty some odd?
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Post by midwestrun09xc on Sept 12, 2007 17:20:08 GMT -5
Never in my thirty some odd years off watching this great sport of cross country have i heard such nonsense. First off, for whoever called up their friendfrom Sycamore, I ask you, does the general public know what the goverment will do about Iran? Of course not, similarly, some student at Sycamore knows nothing about what their coach will do. I have been watching this sport for thirty some odd years, and I can guarantee you, I personally know all of these coaches, and have sat down with many of them before the season for some coffee, and pre-season strategies. Sycamore, having a great shot at state, is considering sitting out their top three. Furthermore, many of you find the rankings of HappyRanker absurd, but it is too early in the season for you guys to be making guesses about which teams will do best, because as any other person who has watched this sport for thirty some odd years, will tell you that things can change at the blink of an eye. Some athletes are much more prone to injury than others, and I believe HappyRanker is taking this crucial variable into account. So i say, kudos to you Happyranker. Things are not always what they seem. Thank you for reading this post, and I look forward to your valuable comments about it. Good thing i called someone from there varsity cross country team...
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Post by midwestrun09xc on Sept 12, 2007 17:23:58 GMT -5
and by the way sycamore isnt guarenteed their sectional because when i was at woodruff i heard that lemont wasnt running their #2 b/c he was sick so i think they havent seen lemont full potential From peoria woodruff. 1.Sycamore- 44 11. Lemont- 305 I dont think one runner could create that many points...
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Post by xcrnr2 on Sept 12, 2007 17:41:02 GMT -5
Personally I don't think Lemont, or many others can touch Sycamore right now. However it is a long season so who knows what will happen.
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Post by xcrunner15 on Sept 12, 2007 17:52:06 GMT -5
yeah i mean, u have to take into account certain aspects but i still stand by sycamore getting the nod. Ill have more complete stuff up later cause i got a thing tonite to do, but as for the belvidere sectional id say it has to be:
1.Sycamore-if they keep running how they are now they win. by a lot 2.Rock Island Alleman- strong top 3 and thats with their number 2 running hurt. Id say that this sectional has three of the top 5 in the state with sycamore, alleman and yorkville 3.Yorkville- lack of front runners hurt abit but u gotta like that 22 second split 4.Dixon- havent seen much on them but i knew they had 3 solid runners, and 2 front runners. if this transfer is good, it defintely bumps them up, possibly to top 5 in state. 5.Kaneland- heard nothing but good stuff about, but dont recall hearing about front runners which always hurts
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 17:58:34 GMT -5
and by the way sycamore isnt guarenteed their sectional because when i was at woodruff i heard that lemont wasnt running their #2 b/c he was sick so i think they havent seen lemont full potential From peoria woodruff. 1.Sycamore- 44 11. Lemont- 305 I dont think one runner could create that many points... #2 runner from lemont didnt run so thats a big turnaround considering our 5th scorer got 94 points and our #4 had a really bad race because of his knees. and happyrunner is the only one talkng about us beating sycamore. nothing against my team but i dont think we can touch them right now.
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 18:17:24 GMT -5
Based off what I have seen results wise. here are some rankings per sectional Chicago Jones (I can't say I have seen much after the top 5) 1. Illiana Christian 2. Wheaton St. Francis 3. Lemont 4. Wheaton Academy 5. Glenbard South then best of the rest would be Montini, Driscoll, Rich South Tinley Park I really haven't seen enough to say much about this one Centralia1. Freeburg 2. Troy Triad 3. Mt. Vernon 4. Chatam Glenwood 5. Breese Mater Dei 6. Carbondale 7. Springfield SHG 8. Salem 9. Springfield Lanphier I haven't seen much on but I would think they would be up in the mix. Someone downstate might do better at this one. Peoria1. Normal U-high 2. Metamora 3. Galesburg 4. Dunlap 5. Peoria Richwoods Belvidere1. Sycamore Would have been 5th in AAA at Woodruff 2. Dixon ( tranfer is new #1 on a loaded team) 3. Crystal Lake Central 4. Yorkville Solid team pack 5. Rock Island Alleman 4, 5 runners have to improve 6. Belvidere North The kids can run 7. Kaneland Needs a front runner 8. Aurora Central Catholic Can coach K work his end of the year magic 9. Burlington Central Has talent but injuries have slowed them early 10. Geneseo great coach who will make this team a factor others Lakes (Lake Villa) Wood Stock Marian Grayslake north Vernon Hills a very deep sectional these are some good rankings, but the teams with an outside chance at the top 5 (i have been looking up some race results all today) besides the 5 u ranked are driscoll, montini, maybe 1 of the Rich schools, northridge prep, and chicago u high if ishartonyou is right then northlawndale could be good having a front runner but i dont know about his information
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 18:17:51 GMT -5
but the time of late october who knows maybe the lemont boys can fix this and pull together a little upset over sycamore because we havent seen lemont at its full force
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 18:24:56 GMT -5
i dont think so sycamore looks pretty good, lemont seems overrated even if their 2 runner is around 16:30, they only 2-3 under 17 and thier 5th guy is above 18. they seem shaky even to advance out of sectionals
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 18:29:27 GMT -5
i wouldnt say overrated but when someone picks us over sycamore then yes i would say so. i think it will be tight between us and illiana for our regional.
off topic but does anyone know when the week 2 rankings should be coming out
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 18:33:03 GMT -5
i wouldnt say overrated but when someone picks us over sycamore then yes i would say so. i think it will be tight between us and illiana for our regional. off topic but does anyone know when the week 2 rankings should be coming out yes i should be done with my rankings quite soon
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 18:35:54 GMT -5
i think he was talking about ROCK's rankings, but he usually is behind schedule
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 18:46:03 GMT -5
i will start a daily TEAM TO BEAT where i put the team on the greatest rise into our discussions and todays TEAM TO BEAT is the boys from ROCK ISLAND ALLEMAN. They have a college level coache in Tony VanDeWalle, a team leader in Tim Hird (who i have right now as my state winner), and a great group of boys who have come out of nowhere and worked hard over the summer to earn the the titile of TEAM TO BEAT
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 18:54:30 GMT -5
team to beat them.. sycamore. they already did. there yo go. yes i was talking about ROCK.
slowrunner, its early in the season and lemont hasnt run together in full yet. and i think theres a pretty good chance at qualifying out of sectionals. the number 1 and 2 runners are going 2 a days and there should be a lot of improvement just from that
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 19:02:14 GMT -5
whoa, 2 times a day u run? wow no wonder i never run fast in races i only run 3 days a week
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 19:03:29 GMT -5
i would just like to thank slowrunner for such a great thread
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 19:10:04 GMT -5
team to beat them.. sycamore. they already did. there yo go. yes i was talking about ROCK. slowrunner, its early in the season and lemont hasnt run together in full yet. and i think theres a pretty good chance at qualifying out of sectionals. the number 1 and 2 runners are going 2 a days and there should be a lot of improvement just from that two a days and they arent even under 15 minutes hahahaha. good old roger would only run 20-25 mpw and he ran pretty much the exact time as campbell
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 19:11:50 GMT -5
team to beat them.. sycamore. they already did. there yo go. yes i was talking about ROCK. slowrunner, its early in the season and lemont hasnt run together in full yet. and i think theres a pretty good chance at qualifying out of sectionals. the number 1 and 2 runners are going 2 a days and there should be a lot of improvement just from that my qualifications for the TEAM TO BEAT is not the best team but the team on the rise. get your facts straight
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 19:49:15 GMT -5
team to beat them.. sycamore. they already did. there yo go. yes i was talking about ROCK. slowrunner, its early in the season and lemont hasnt run together in full yet. and i think theres a pretty good chance at qualifying out of sectionals. the number 1 and 2 runners are going 2 a days and there should be a lot of improvement just from that my qualifications for the TEAM TO BEAT is not the best team but the team on the rise. get your facts straight get your posts straight and we havent been doing 2 a days all season we are starting up this week so we arent peaking too early this year. why peak in the middle of the season
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 20:15:07 GMT -5
i would just like to thank slowrunner for such a great thread no problem i am just happy that there is being some energetic conversation about the great class AA xc this is gonna be a great year, i am so happy that people are taking the time to make great rankings
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Post by slowrunner on Sept 12, 2007 20:17:05 GMT -5
and i think you all should settle down a little and stop hurting each others feelings (happyranker and strauss32)
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Post by strauss32 on Sept 12, 2007 20:26:49 GMT -5
sorry if i hut anyones feelings. he needs to get some facts straight though
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Post by xcrnr2 on Sept 12, 2007 20:30:37 GMT -5
I think some of you need to relax and understand rankings are just rankings (some will be more biased then others) I think happyranker has done a good job with his rankings. He has done his homework. looking at Lemont right now they have 3 under 17:00 with 4 and 5 a ways back. we all know it is 4 and 5 that make the team if they can get 4 and 5 closer to 17 then they should be able to advance out of sectionals, if not then they will be possibly looking at just some individual qualifiers. One last thing boys don't take things personal - everybody has the right to their opinion
Train and Race hard and let the chips fall where they may!
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Post by happyranker on Sept 12, 2007 21:02:31 GMT -5
happyranker sorryyyyyyy i read the thread wrong. i listed teams in the sectional that look like they can have a chance in advancing. i narrowed it down for people you just took it further. what you said about lemont and illiana... both teams have solid 1 2 and 3 runners. i think itll be more about how the 4th and 5th can preform rather than the 6th runner playing a role in the final score. you did go into good detail about it. nice job. i have been doing my homework and orginally most people, even strauss, enjoyed my rankings. but i have been receiving alot of hating lately and i dont know if i can continue my rankings if people are going to be upset at every controversial ranking i put. i am not trying to hurt anyone's feelings but what i put out is what i think will happen based on result and information from runners and coaches. maybe my predictions will be wrong, but maybe they will be right they are just my educated guesses. unless i get a little slack for my opinions i dont know if i can continue to give my imput
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Post by xcrnr2 on Sept 12, 2007 21:05:01 GMT -5
I appreciate your efforts
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Post by midwestrun09xc on Sept 12, 2007 22:20:35 GMT -5
happyranker sorryyyyyyy i read the thread wrong. i listed teams in the sectional that look like they can have a chance in advancing. i narrowed it down for people you just took it further. what you said about lemont and illiana... both teams have solid 1 2 and 3 runners. i think itll be more about how the 4th and 5th can preform rather than the 6th runner playing a role in the final score. you did go into good detail about it. nice job. i have been doing my homework and orginally most people, even strauss, enjoyed my rankings. but i have been receiving alot of hating lately and i dont know if i can continue my rankings if people are going to be upset at every controversial ranking i put. i am not trying to hurt anyone's feelings but what i put out is what i think will happen based on result and information from runners and coaches. maybe my predictions will be wrong, but maybe they will be right they are just my educated guesses. unless i get a little slack for my opinions i dont know if i can continue to give my imput Its probably for the best you stop, lieing about other teams is bad.
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Post by xcrunner30 on Sept 13, 2007 7:51:51 GMT -5
Again, i think we got the point that you've been around for thirty some odd years.
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