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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 21, 2008 14:13:34 GMT -5
Trying desperately to convince our school to start a track program for 2008/2009. One stumbling block that keeps coming up is how can you have a track program without a track. Got that aspect covered. For additional help though, can posters give names of schools south of I-80 which have track programs but not their own track. Not sure I can count the Peoria schools since they have use of Peoria Stadium (yes/no?). Please reply with names of any schools you are aware of. Please include schools with no tracks who co-op and use their partner school's track. Thanks!
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 21, 2008 14:18:32 GMT -5
If anyone is an active poster on IHSS would you please consider posting this as I know a lot of downstate posters visit this site as well.
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Post by flagman on Feb 21, 2008 16:56:27 GMT -5
Vienna-Pinckneyville, ........Carterville just got a new one this year....there are several more out there.
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 21, 2008 17:24:18 GMT -5
Vienna-Pinckneyville, ........Carterville just got a new one this year....there are several more out there. Thanks! Did Carterville have cinders before? Anyone else on who those others might be? Is Vienna-Pinckneyville a Co-op?
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Post by fastbutnotquick on Feb 21, 2008 19:35:09 GMT -5
lasalle peru high school.....st bede....fieldcrest....el paso....deemack......midland.....flanagan.......roanoke benson.....streator woodland....and many more
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 21, 2008 21:20:00 GMT -5
lasalle peru high school.....st bede....fieldcrest....el paso....deemack......midland.....flanagan.......roanoke benson.....streator woodland....and many more Keep those names coming. I'd like to add us to that list.
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Post by southernill on Feb 21, 2008 23:32:05 GMT -5
Well DuQuoin would kind of fit into this category. They do have a track but its cinders and usually too wet to run on the first two months of the season. Jumping runways are all asphalt and high jump mats are usually set up in the gym. Most of their training last year occured in the gym, in the streets, the hills of the fairgrounds, and in the weight room. I think they faired pretty well last year if I remember correctly. I went to college with an athlete from Vienna who was an exceptional runner. She trained on the streets and in a field by the high school since they were without a track. She was one of the top runners in the state and she received a scholarship to SEMO to run. It is very possible to run a program without a track. Making friends with a school that has a track close by would be benificial. Its hard to train a pole vaulter on Main St. Good luck on starting your program!
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Post by dbandre on Feb 22, 2008 2:39:55 GMT -5
add Warrensburg-Latham and Argenta-Oreana
anyways, you don't need a track to be successful. You need a creative and inventive coaching staff who can make the most out of what they have. I would even argue you don't need hurdles, weights, or throwing implements to be successful in those events. The Jamaicans run on grass tracks through their entire careers and we have people complaining of cinders. In my middle school years and freshman year of hs, some schools still held meets on their cinder tracks and cinder tracks are as fast if not faster than most recycled tire tracks for events of 200m or over assuming you wear the correct length spikes on cinders.
You can build a regulation vault pit and move it anywhere.
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 22, 2008 17:12:37 GMT -5
add Warrensburg-Latham and Argenta-Oreana anyways, you don't need a track to be successful. You need a creative and inventive coaching staff who can make the most out of what they have. I would even argue you don't need hurdles, weights, or throwing implements to be successful in those events. The Jamaicans run on grass tracks through their entire careers and we have people complaining of cinders. In my middle school years and freshman year of hs, some schools still held meets on their cinder tracks and cinder tracks are as fast if not faster than most recycled tire tracks for events of 200m or over assuming you wear the correct length spikes on cinders. You can build a regulation vault pit and move it anywhere. Thanks, Will add them. We've been all over the logistics for doing this w/o a track. That's honestly the most fun part of this. Those practices will be most remembered years from now. We won't be doing PV as we would be totally self-funded and HJ won't come until year 2 or 3. Everything else is covered. I'm looking for any schools who don't have their own regulation track, cinders or rubber. Keep those names coming as my list keeps growing!
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Post by xcbbtrk on Feb 23, 2008 11:47:03 GMT -5
Warrensburg and Argenta both have a track. Argenta Oreana is hosting a co-ed meet with Cerro Gordo on 3/26, and Sangamon Valley on 4/10. The middle school aslo hosts numerios meets at Argenta. Warrensburg's high school does not host on their track, but the middle school has some meets there. They both might be cinders, I don't know. As far as not needing equipment, I would have to disagree. Yes, it is possible to train somewhat without it in every event area. However, If I am coaching my throwers, I want a shot or disc in their hand LONG before they ever see one in a meet, and the sooner, the better. There are lots of drills you can do to work on technique, and alot of emphasis should be placed on it. However, there are days when the athletes need to throw in the ring. Same goes for hurdles. You can only visualize so much, especially at the younger levels, what a hurdle looks like before you have to attempt running over some of them.
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Post by dbandre on Feb 23, 2008 12:02:29 GMT -5
Warrensburg and Argenta both have a track. Argenta Oreana is hosting a co-ed meet with Cerro Gordo on 3/26, and Sangamon Valley on 4/10. The middle school aslo hosts numerios meets at Argenta. Warrensburg's high school does not host on their track, but the middle school has some meets there. They both might be cinders, I don't know. that's good news then, last time I saw the track at AO it was becoming grass covered in the cinders. Are the athletes going to be allowed to run in 1/2 inch or longer spikes? While I agree that it is an advantage in the short term to have hurdles and implements. Over the course of the season I don't really believe it has the impact most believe.
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 24, 2008 18:25:38 GMT -5
Is Warrensburg Lathem a co-op? Great names so far. Pls indicate if the schools with cinder tracks are regulation in length with propoer turns, etc and just not used. Any other HS out there w/o any track, cinder or rubber? Thanks!
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Post by xcbbtrk on Feb 24, 2008 18:54:04 GMT -5
W-L is a co-op with Maroa Forsyth at the High School level. Both have their own middle school teams. Maroa's track is 400 meters, cinders. I am not sure if it is 6 or 8 lanes. Kind of depends on who lines it before the meets. Hey dbandre, are you coaching anywhere now? I think I recognize you.. A CHS alum from the days of Carter, Dougherty, Alexander, and Anderson??
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 24, 2008 19:36:16 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by dbandre on Feb 25, 2008 0:20:24 GMT -5
W-L is a co-op with Maroa Forsyth at the High School level. Both have their own middle school teams. Maroa's track is 400 meters, cinders. I am not sure if it is 6 or 8 lanes. Kind of depends on who lines it before the meets. Hey dbandre, are you coaching anywhere now? I think I recognize you.. A CHS alum from the days of Carter, Dougherty, Alexander, and Anderson?? Yes I am a CHS alum from those days and 3 of those guys are my best friends. No I am not coaching anywhere, I kind of have that and grad school on hold for a little while. I do still coach kids in the summer time and I still attend meets.
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Post by pry3960 on Feb 28, 2008 9:26:37 GMT -5
The Suburban Catholic Conference has a number of schools without tracks: Driscoll, St. Edwards, Immaculate Conception, St. Francis. Each of these schools has been able to send runners down state and compete with larger schools.
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Post by hoggin88 on Feb 28, 2008 11:17:55 GMT -5
Ottawa Marquette High School doesn't have a track. They do some of their practices at Ottawa Township High School or over at the grade school.
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Post by plyometric on Feb 28, 2008 12:03:03 GMT -5
Listen.........MOST of the Chicago Public League schools don't and never have had tracks.
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 28, 2008 15:56:05 GMT -5
Listen.........MOST of the Chicago Public League schools don't and never have had tracks. Which are some of the more noteworthy programs I could use as examples? The last few posts have been great and I need the names of any schools fitting this criteria: No track at all or one in so poor shape it is not used for practices.
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Post by ROCK on Feb 28, 2008 22:34:40 GMT -5
Listen.........MOST of the Chicago Public League schools don't and never have had tracks. Which are some of the more noteworthy programs I could use as examples? The last few posts have been great and I need the names of any schools fitting this criteria: No track at all or one in so poor shape it is not used for practices. Morgan Park won the state meet numerous times. They have a six lane outdoor track. Lane Tech has won the City meet quite often. They have a brand new outdoor track. Prior to this year it was a cinder track. It is a Chicago Public League Stadium, so they cannot use it all the time. The CPS has a rule that states that a track cannot be used while a soccer, lacrosse, or footbal game is going on. Mather has a good program, and their boys have been at the top of the league. They use North Park College's track. Northside Prep also uses the track at North Park. We (Whitney Young) have no track at all. We sometimes car pool to Jackson Park (about 10 miles away from school) to work out. There is not one single indoor track in the entire city for any CPS school to use for either practice or meets. Prior to this year, our indoor City Championships were held at Proviso West, a suburban track. I can only imagine what some of the CPS teams would do if there were more tracks available. Especially indoors.
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Post by qcyrunner on Feb 28, 2008 22:39:43 GMT -5
I would be great if there were the space and the funding to add the facilities needed. I agree, it would be scary to see how good some of the teams would be coming out of the CPL. Thanks!
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Post by millertime1600 on Feb 29, 2008 23:36:48 GMT -5
Staunton has a cinder track that is not regulation size. the 3200m start is on the opposite side of the finish line because of this. the high jump is usually set up in the gym because it is asphalt outside. grass and rocks are always in the mix with cinders on the track. the long jump and triple jump runway is a rubber slab, which means that spikes don't even go into the surface of it. Because of all of this there are never track meets at Staunton and the athletes in the program have to resort to alot of alternative training places, especially the distance runners. Just thought i would add Staunton to the list.
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Post by warner752 on Mar 2, 2008 20:02:43 GMT -5
I would have to say Illiana Christian is one of the best track schools in the state that have never had a track. Back when they were in Class A they won many sectionals and sent many qualifiers and relay teams downstate before the retarded multilplier was put in effect. Illiana does have one of the best distance running teams in the state out of the schools with an enrollment under 1000.
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Post by hargrave84 on May 16, 2008 11:18:12 GMT -5
For the longest time, Danville High School was never able to hold track meets at home because their old practice cinder track was not regulation (it was like a rectangle with rounded corners. though I have been told that only one side is like that!). I have heard different stories as to why: some say that it was designed that way to fit into a limited space field, and others say that road widening on that side made it necessary to shave off the curve; not exactly sure of the true story, maybe some of you old-timers do?
Anyway, that will all finally change next year as they recently had the dedication/christening ceremony 3 weeks ago for a brand new 8-lane all weather track!
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