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Post by anthonyj on Apr 2, 2008 5:08:11 GMT -5
First off who impressed you most during the indoor season, teamwise or individually?
What outdoor meet/invitational are you looking forward to the most?
What kind of meet do you like the best? ie. A.B.C. Meets, Relay Meets, Co-Ed Meets ?
Do you prefer Friday Night Meets, Saturday Meets, or Meets during school Nights?
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Post by off on Apr 2, 2008 16:31:42 GMT -5
Individually these girls...
Olivia Allen
Toni Graham
Natalie Tarter
Will go 1, 2, 3 in the 100. Top two if not all three will run sub12.
The spoiler will probably be Jerrika Lewis(12.49/24.82)
I'm not sure if Tarter will run the 200m, but Toni Graham should win this one. Olivia Allen & Jerrika Lewis will probably make it a little hard on her. That should be the top 3.
Shakia Pinnick is impressive as well, but she needs to find a group of events and stick to it. She's gonna be a wreck if she's gonna keep running the heptathalon every week. She could be a threat in any event from 400 down, but she might not win any simply from fatigue.
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Post by fastbutnotquick on Apr 2, 2008 17:54:32 GMT -5
With meets...i like the big co-ed meets with lots of competition in every race....and the best ones are the Friday night meets!! Especially when it is nice out and you get to race under the lights...what could be better??
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Post by off on Apr 5, 2008 15:50:45 GMT -5
I forgot Nash from ESL was still in high school..
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Post by trackreporter on Apr 6, 2008 1:22:02 GMT -5
THERE IS SOME NEW TOP PERFORMERS IN ILLINOIS, I WENT TO THE STAGG INVITATIONAL ON SATURDAY AND THERE WAS A KID FROM ROMEOVILLE THAT CAUGHT THE CROWDS EYE AND HAD COACHES ASKING HIS COACH WHERE HE COMES FROM
JULIUS REDDEN IS A DECENT SPRINTER. HE RAN IN 2 SPRINT EVENTS. THE 400 WHICH HE ONE IN 50.3, ANCHORED A 2ND PLACE 4x200, AND ANCHORED A 1ST PLACE 4x400 WITH A 51.3 ONLY 20 MINUTES LATER. DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT HIM ARE WHERE HE COMES FROM?
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Post by dbandre on Apr 6, 2008 1:27:29 GMT -5
he's a 50s+ 400m runner what makes him so special??? About 1 in every 6 hs boys has the potential to run this fast.
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Post by trackreporter on Apr 6, 2008 1:34:57 GMT -5
BEING THAT THIS WAS HIS FIRST EVER OUTDOOR 400M THATS AMAZING AND AFTER TALKING TO HIS COACH RUNNING 49.8'S IN PRACTICE AND BEING A D 1 RECRUIT, ITS SPECIAL
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Post by faustus on Apr 6, 2008 7:26:19 GMT -5
50.3 is decent for the frist meet but if the kid is droppin 49.8s in practice, he should be runnin a lot faster in a meet, regardless if its his first open quarter in a meet or not.
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Post by faustus on Apr 6, 2008 7:30:19 GMT -5
By the way, did anyone check the Mobile Alabama meet? Donald dropped a 48.42 and Cahokia went 3.19.7. Its the first weekend of March y'all and they're already goin fast.
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Post by faustus on Apr 6, 2008 12:32:22 GMT -5
First weekend of april, my bad. still, 48.42 and 3:19, aint to bad.
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Post by foxvalleyparent on Apr 6, 2008 16:53:17 GMT -5
Any one know the Johnson girl from Rock Island? Looks like she did a number on the Barrington girls Saturday at the Homewood-Flossmoor Invite. Won the 1, 2, and 4. - 12.18, 25.65, and a 56.18. Wow, don't know if the timing was F.A.T., still, that's flying for this time of the year. Where did she come from?
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Post by anthonyj on Apr 6, 2008 17:39:51 GMT -5
She was the number 2 sprinter on the team when her cousin Tia Harvey was there. She was always talented but it appears now she's coming into her own.
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Post by hoggin88 on Apr 6, 2008 19:57:17 GMT -5
he's a 50s+ 400m runner what makes him so special??? About 1 in every 6 hs boys has the potential to run this fast. Maybe 1 in 6 have the potential, but do you see 1 in 6 actually running it? In case you've forgotten - potential and actual times don't exactly always match up. A 50.3 at this point in the year is pretty good and doesn't deserve a negative sounding comment from you. Maybe it's no Darien Donald time, but come on. |
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Post by dbandre on Apr 6, 2008 20:56:43 GMT -5
he's a 50s+ 400m runner what makes him so special??? About 1 in every 6 hs boys has the potential to run this fast. Maybe 1 in 6 have the potential, but do you see 1 in 6 actually running it? In case you've forgotten - potential and actual times don't exactly always match up. A 50.3 at this point in the year is pretty good and doesn't deserve a negative sounding comment from you. Maybe it's no Darien Donald time, but come on. I'll agree it's a decent time, but I am not going to tout a kid's horn from someone who types in ALL CAPS and one that is from 70-85% percentile. It wasn't negative, but it wasn't going be hey jeez this kid is the greatest ever. So good he runs faster in practice than at meets. Why is he even running 400's in practice?!?! Is he really an 800m runner? |
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Post by hoggin88 on Apr 6, 2008 22:03:18 GMT -5
Maybe 1 in 6 have the potential, but do you see 1 in 6 actually running it? In case you've forgotten - potential and actual times don't exactly always match up. A 50.3 at this point in the year is pretty good and doesn't deserve a negative sounding comment from you. Maybe it's no Darien Donald time, but come on. I'll agree it's a decent time, but I am not going to tout a kid's horn from someone who types in ALL CAPS and one that is from 70-85% percentile. It wasn't negative, but it wasn't going be hey jeez this kid is the greatest ever. So good he runs faster in practice than at meets. Why is he even running 400's in practice?!?! Is he really an 800m runner? Are you saying 400 meter runners shouldn't run 400's in practice? |
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Post by dbandre on Apr 6, 2008 23:22:19 GMT -5
yes, I am, You can get a lot more out of 250's, 300's, 320's, and 350's.
Early in the year, I can maybe see 4 x 400m @ 60-62s with 8-10 minutes of rest. However, I would rather see my kids doing 8 x 200m @ 30-31s with 3-5minutes rest, but right now 250-320's get me the 30s-40s of lactic acid work @ race intensities without actually doing the event and season long speed development. It's about building endurance for the event as a season long progression over the already built speed and continually building speed and the ability to maximize it and optimize it, not building endurance then trying to speed up. These aren't Baylor athletes and they don't possess the speed that Baylor athletes possess.
Doing 400's at race pace will only burn a kid out, and slowing down the time over the actual event distance only teaches pour energy distribution.
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Post by trackreporter on Apr 7, 2008 0:08:51 GMT -5
AT THORNRIDGE
1. THORNRIDGE 190, 2. BOLINGBROOK 164.5, 3. PROVIDENCE CATHOLIC 128, 4. LINCOLN-WAY EAST 112, 5. NORMAL WEST 80, 6. LAKE ZURICH HS 68, 7. BRADLEY BOURBONNAIS 52, 8. WHITNEY YOUNG 51.5, 9. LEO 45, 10. EISENHOWER 8.
(Winners and Thornridge placers only)
3200 RELAY -- 1. Normal West 8:14.40, 2. Thornridge 8:31.87. 400 RELAY -- 1. Bolingbrook 42.53, 2. Thornridge 43.50. 3200 -- 1. Gerrry Perez (LZ) 9:56.22. 110 H -- 1. Corve Smith (BOL) 14.90, 2. Marcus Harnett (TR) 15.09, 6. Chad Collins (TR) 16.42. 100 -- 1. Sean Lindbloom (PC) 10.86, 2. Jamal Jones (TR) 11.04. 800 -- 1. Matt Mackowiak (LWE) 2:00.81, 2. Marlon Taylor (TR) 2:01.85. 800 RELAY -- 1. Bolingbrook 1:29.40. 400 -- 1. Nick Nueman (LWE) 48.78. 300 IM -- 1. Joey Michals (PC) 40.87, 3. Breet Adams (TR) 41.99, 5. Collins (TR) 42.84. 1600 -- 1. Donovan Nash (TR) 4:34. 200 -- 1. Kayode Agegoke (BOL) 21.87, 5. Dimitri Johnson 23.96. WEIGHT MAN RELAY -- 1. Thornridge 49.41. 1600 RELAY -- 1. Bolingbrook 3:27.37, 2. Thornridge 3:29.68. PV -- 1. Corey McCullough (TR) 11-6, 3. Kenneth Walker (TR) 9-6. LJ -- 1. Debonair Daniel (WY) 20-6, 2. Harnett (TR) 19-10, 3. Collins (TR) 19-9. DIS -- 1. Patrick Ward (PC) 132-1. SP -- 1. Kevin Maloney (PC) 51-11, 3. Greg Covington (TR) 48-7.5. HJ --
1. Derek Severson (LWE) 6-8. TJ -- 1. Devyn Cullers (WY) 43-0.5, 2. Javier Lofton-Knox (TR) 42-8, 4. Collins (TR) 41-10.
Gary Johnson Bulldog Relays
AT RIVERSIDE BROOKFIELD
1. ALGONQUIN JACOBS 91, 2. DIXON, RIVERSIDE BROOKFIELD 60, 4. MINOOKA 54, 5. WOODSTOCK 51.5, 6. ILLIANA CHRISTIAN 26.5, 7. NAZARETH 22.5, 8. LEYDEN 18, 9. ST. JOSEPH 12.5, 10. ELMWOOD PARK 11, 11. MONTINI 10, 12. RIDGEWOOD 7.
Winners and Illiana Christian placers only
100 -- 1. J.M. Salcedo (AJ) 11.18. 1600 -- 1. Kyle Boone (D) 4:36.40. 3200 -- 1. Austin Warner (IC) 9:50.64. 110 H -- 1. Danny Trevor (AJ) 15.37. 300 H -- 1. Pat Sons (IC) 42.41. 400 RELAY -- 1. Algonquin Jacobs 44.6. 1600 RELAY -- 1. Riverside Brookfield 3:29.80. 3200 RELAY -- 1. Minooka 8:24.58, 6. Illiana Christian 9:24. DISTANCE MEDLEY RELAY -- 1. Dixon 3:47.26. HJ -- 1. Dave Dixon (SJ) 6-0, 4. Justin Ooms (IC) 5-8. PV -- 1. Vince Lawdenski (M) 12-0. LJ -- 1. Scott Rausch (WS) 20-4.5, 6. Sons (IC) 18-11. TJ -- 1. Darius Bowers (AJ) 40-5.5, 5. Nerf Udoekong (IC) 38-4. SP -- 1. Adam Devine (D) 54-10. DIS -- 1. Greg Raimondi (RW) 157-03.
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Post by off on Apr 7, 2008 16:54:03 GMT -5
Any one know the Johnson girl from Rock Island? Looks like she did a number on the Barrington girls Saturday at the Homewood-Flossmoor Invite. Won the 1, 2, and 4. - 12.18, 25.65, and a 56.18. Wow, don't know if the timing was F.A.T., still, that's flying for this time of the year. Where did she come from? The meet wasn't FAT, but she did have a good performance. She kind of reminds me of Sherone Simpson from jamaica the way she runs. The 100m was neck and neck until the final 15m. The 200m was even coming off the curve, then she pulled away with Jerrika Lewis & Samantha Learch(spelling)close behind figting for 2nd. Lewis probably should have beat her in the 400, but ran far to agressive in the 1st 100m and faded in the last 100m. They were running into the wind for the 100, 200 and last 100m of the 400m. So the times even though their hand timed don't really show what she and the other girls are capable of. The top three girls would have probably run under 12.00 in the 100, and Johnson would have probably run 24.xx in the 200. Maybe 55 in the 400. I have video of the 100, 200, 100hdl, & 4x100 |
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Post by acoach on Apr 8, 2008 9:11:14 GMT -5
Dbandre I no for a fact that the coach from Romeoville has the kids running practice distances under 400m because that is what he has learned from college and other high school coaches. your post tells me that the work outs that I am doing are correct. Thank you for the backup. Now if my kids will just listen to me!  |
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Post by dbandre on Apr 8, 2008 12:37:55 GMT -5
Dbandre I no for a fact that the coach from Romeoville has the kids running practice distances under 400m because that is what he has learned from college and other high school coaches. your post tells me that the work outs that I am doing are correct. Thank you for the backup. Now if my kids will just listen to me! That's cool, but I don't understand the original poster. It's ok to use overdistance too as there are many roads to rome, but the competitive season isn't typically the time or place regardless of training through or not and definitely not the time to do exact distance time trials or repeats. However, what I read into the post was the kid was doing 400m runs on a regular basis in practice and ran 49 point in one of them. If I had kid run 49 point in practice and 50 point at a meet unless there was some extreme weather I would do some re-evaluating. Getting the kids to listen is one of the hardest things to do and is the heart and soul of coaching. Even more important than a physiological training plan. Hey, most sprinters don't understand a day with 8x200m @ 8s off 200m race pace is essentially his least intense day. While the same workout to a mid distance runner is one his most intense days. I spend some time explaining to my athletes this concept and I reinforce it year round. All events require different training to be successful and out of fairness to all athletes I train them according to the events they are to compete in. If a distance runner wants to jump or throw, they will eventually have to become at least a mid, otherwise the training is contraindicative. You cannot do long jump training and miler training and expect consistent results in either event. One coach in class A will find this out later, I just hope that coach takes a short to long approach with this athlete and build the endurance necessary through the total volume of training which should keep the athlete's long jump relatively the same throughout the season and hopefully bring the athlete's mile time into the range necessary to compete successfully at the state meet. This kid is a tremendous athlete and I'll reserve judgment on the this kid and the romeoville one on their end of season results. |
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Post by foxvalleyparent on Apr 9, 2008 8:42:32 GMT -5
The meet wasn't FAT, but she did have a good performance. She kind of reminds me of Sherone Simpson from jamaica the way she runs. The 100m was neck and neck until the final 15m. The 200m was even coming off the curve, then she pulled away with Jerrika Lewis & Samantha Learch(spelling)close behind figting for 2nd. Lewis probably should have beat her in the 400, but ran far to agressive in the 1st 100m and faded in the last 100m.
They were running into the wind for the 100, 200 and last 100m of the 400m. So the times even though their hand timed don't really show what she and the other girls are capable of. The top three girls would have probably run under 12.00 in the 100, and Johnson would have probably run 24.xx in the 200. Maybe 55 in the 400.
A good performance?
Without the wind she could of ran state championship winning times in all three sprint events (2007 times) in the first week of April and you're saying she had JUST a "Good" performance? LOL
If a girl in Illinois is running 55s, 24s and 11s in May, she is a superstar, I don't know what team you were following when you were taking the video, but if it's Rock Falls, I look forward to hearing about how her season progresses.
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Post by fastbutnotquick on Apr 9, 2008 14:04:04 GMT -5
How have the class a meets been going around the state?? Are many getting run or has the weather put a damper on things? Just curious if anyone in class a has been in any big invites yet or just little ones.
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Post by rt20 on Apr 9, 2008 14:40:09 GMT -5
we have had no outdoor meets this year. All cancelled.
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Post by off on Apr 9, 2008 15:46:30 GMT -5
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A good performance?
Without the wind she could of ran state championship winning times in all three sprint events (2007 times) in the first week of April and you're saying she had JUST a "Good" performance? LOL
If a girl in Illinois is running 55s, 24s and 11s in May, she is a superstar, I don't know what team you were following when you were taking the video, but if it's Rock Falls, I look forward to hearing about how her season progresses.
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You asked whether or not it was FAT, and I said no, but it was still a good performance. It's kinda hard to screw the clock up enough to get a 56 in the 400m. I don't know how excited you wanted me to be, but I wasn't talking down or being less impressed.
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Post by fastbutnotquick on Apr 9, 2008 20:31:16 GMT -5
is snow actually going to happen on saturday?? or is it just another way to scare us runners....boo snow!! its april for heaven sakes!!!
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Post by trackreporter on Apr 9, 2008 23:12:53 GMT -5
Are you at Naperville North this weekend?
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Post by trackreporter on Apr 12, 2008 9:43:10 GMT -5
The Naperville North Gus Scott Invitational has been cancelled for 4/12
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Post by tc on Apr 12, 2008 15:34:11 GMT -5
Hey fastbutnotquick, the answer to will it really snow on Saturday is yes. I know this because I was definitely running a portion of the 4x1600 in the snow because Rochelle refused to cancel their meet. It progressively got colder too.
Was anybody else at this completely ridiculous meet?
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Post by dxnlgn on Apr 12, 2008 17:05:09 GMT -5
We went and our team did not benefit from it at all. You also forgot about the 35 mile an hour winds. If it wasn't for gedwill to draft off of I would have never made it. Our 13 foot pole-vaulter did not make opening at nine. Thats how bad it was Team scores: Belvidere North-122 Dixon-107 Rochelle-106. Thank God good weather is on the way.
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Post by rihstrack on Apr 28, 2008 11:30:28 GMT -5
The meet wasn't FAT, but she did have a good performance. She kind of reminds me of Sherone Simpson from jamaica the way she runs. The 100m was neck and neck until the final 15m. The 200m was even coming off the curve, then she pulled away with Jerrika Lewis & Samantha Learch(spelling)close behind figting for 2nd. Lewis probably should have beat her in the 400, but ran far to agressive in the 1st 100m and faded in the last 100m. They were running into the wind for the 100, 200 and last 100m of the 400m. So the times even though their hand timed don't really show what she and the other girls are capable of. The top three girls would have probably run under 12.00 in the 100, and Johnson would have probably run 24.xx in the 200. Maybe 55 in the 400. A good performance?
Without the wind she could of ran state championship winning times in all three sprint events (2007 times) in the first week of April and you're saying she had JUST a "Good" performance? LOL
If a girl in Illinois is running 55s, 24s and 11s in May, she is a superstar, I don't know what team you were following when you were taking the video, but if it's Rock Falls, I look forward to hearing about how her season progresses. |
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