run
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Post by run on Nov 9, 2007 23:05:27 GMT -5
I was not able to attend the State Finals this year... those that were there and/or those that ran, I have a question: How crowded was the course? Could the course hold 40+ more runners (5 teams and individuals from a FIFTH sectional)?
I guess my main question is: Is it possible and would it be a good idea to have twenty five teams in each state final race as opposed to the current twenty team format?
I hope this spurs intelligent debate...
With the recent change to three classes, some argue that XC is already "watered down." Adding five more teams per class would surely water things down a bit more. But there were quite a few very good teams left at home that could have made things even more interesting in Peoria (Just my opinion).
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Post by illini1 on Nov 9, 2007 23:25:16 GMT -5
Of course it can accommodate 40 or so more runners...it certainly did in 2006. There absolutely needs to be a 5th sectional at the AAA level. I'm not sure about Class AA or Class A.
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Post by dbandre on Nov 9, 2007 23:25:21 GMT -5
Only the larger classes can accommodate more sectionals, primarily because they have more teams. Show up at a class A regional and what was listed as a team is really 3 individuals.
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Post by lwcxc on Nov 9, 2007 23:38:55 GMT -5
Only the larger classes can accommodate more sectionals, primarily because they have more teams. Show up at a class A regional and what was listed as a team is really 3 individuals. AAA could use another sectional, though I'm not quite sure how it would be configured. Each regional this year had the normal amount of teams (10-11), so adding another sectional would take a lot of those races down to 7-9 teams--not sure if the IHSA wants to do that. I suppose they could separate the downstate teams into their own sectional and put the new sectional in the suburbs, but there are only 18-20 downstate teams in AAA total. |
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Post by bacon on Nov 12, 2007 12:58:02 GMT -5
AAA could use another sectional, though I'm not quite sure how it would be configured. Each regional this year had the normal amount of teams (10-11), so adding another sectional would take a lot of those races down to 7-9 teams--not sure if the IHSA wants to do that. I suppose they could separate the downstate teams into their own sectional and put the new sectional in the suburbs, but there are only 18-20 downstate teams in AAA total. There were 170 AAA boy XC teams this year. 5 sectionals, with 4 regionals each, would require 20 regionals. That would be 8.5 teams per regional. Assuming the IHSA can keep regional size consistant, that does seem pretty small. I think cutting the field in half at regionals is a good idea. So do you want to consider adding another sectional and only advancing 4 teams from regionals... |
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Post by lwcxc on Nov 12, 2007 20:28:49 GMT -5
AAA could use another sectional, though I'm not quite sure how it would be configured. Each regional this year had the normal amount of teams (10-11), so adding another sectional would take a lot of those races down to 7-9 teams--not sure if the IHSA wants to do that. I suppose they could separate the downstate teams into their own sectional and put the new sectional in the suburbs, but there are only 18-20 downstate teams in AAA total. There were 170 AAA boy XC teams this year. 5 sectionals, with 4 regionals each, would require 20 regionals. That would be 8.5 teams per regional. Assuming the IHSA can keep regional size consistant, that does seem pretty small. I think cutting the field in half at regionals is a good idea. So do you want to consider adding another sectional and only advancing 4 teams from regionals... That's an interesting thought. I really can't imagine the IHSA cutting a team out of Sectional qualifying--it strikes me as an "all-or-nothing" organization. Either AAA will have 5 Sectionals with 5 teams qualifying from each or we'll have the same format as this year. Also, can you imagine the uproar if a IPTT "ranked" team couldn't make it through a tough regional (like East Aurora) because only 4 teams could qualify for Sectionals? While I certainly think it would work in some areas (there was a big gap between the 4th and 5th teams at the Lockport Regional where my team ran) I think Ron McGraw would be forced into hiding if a "traditional" power failed to make it to the second round of the state series due to a rule change. |
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Post by cubbie on Nov 29, 2007 9:09:34 GMT -5
In 3A there needs to be a nother sectional. There was NO team south of I80 at the State Meet and only 5 ind. for both the boys and girls. The IHSA says that they want a complete repesentaion of the state for the finals.
There were many IPTT teams ranked that did not make it to the second round and many top ranked teams that did not qualify for state because of the sectionals. So, Yes North of I80 needs a nother sectional. I do not see the problem if the reason for the 3 classes was to have more qualifers anyway.
Besides 3A had 50% of the teams in its class vs 25% for the other 2
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Post by qcyrunner on Nov 30, 2007 0:31:00 GMT -5
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