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Post by runningnerd on Sept 25, 2007 18:41:10 GMT -5
there is a thread for PND sectional, so i thought there should be one for this sectional, since there seems to be a lot of posters on here from that sectional.
my picks as of this week for boys, teamwise:
1.st. francis 2.illiana christian 3.glenbard south 4.lemont 5.wheaton academy 6.walther lutheran 7.northridge prep 8.chicago u-high 9.nazareth academy 10. ridgewood
feel free to post your own rankings, if you know of other good teams and if you know individuals, those rankings are only based on iptt results and rankings
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Post by timothyjohnston3 on Sept 26, 2007 9:05:08 GMT -5
Surely, you cannot go simply off IPTT rankings, they are generally inconsistent. However, I must also admit, I have not been keeping in touch with the Chicago Jones Sectional. It would be best if an experienced athlete in the sectional, or a coach posted their rankings.
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Post by 800man on Sept 26, 2007 9:31:28 GMT -5
Surely, you cannot go simply off IPTT rankings, they are generally inconsistent. However, I must also admit, I have not been keeping in touch with the Chicago Jones Sectional. It would be best if an experienced athlete in the sectional, or a coach posted their rankings. This is a tough sectional to rate. St Francis has a couple of decent front runners but don't know about their 3-7. Haven't seen anything to substantiate the Illiana rating. Lemont has run a whole lot at full strength. Glenbard South hasn't impressed, no lead runner, no seniors, and only 4 or 5 juniors. Wheaton Academy like St Francis but further back, a couple of decent 1, 2 runners but where are 3-6? Northridge prep had a good solid meet two weeks ago but is it enough? The other problem is that they don't seen to run against each other or if they did they didn't run full squads. So far based on what results I've seen I have it: 1. St. Francis ( just based on their lead runners ) Then in no particular order: Wheaton Academy Lemont Glenbard South Illiana Christian Northridge Prep This is by far the weakest sectional and unless someone make a big, no huge surge, will not provide a top 10 team to the state meet.
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Post by xcrnr2 on Sept 26, 2007 13:09:09 GMT -5
I agree with you, this sectional is relatively week. From what i have seen i would rank it like this 1. St Francis -- solid 1,2 : 3-5 strongest of the bunch 2. Illana Christian -- ran well at Tinley Park invite 3. Wheaton Academy (similar team to the other 4) 4. Glenbard South - Hard to judge-- young 5. Lemont Strong 1,2,3 (all under 17): 4 and 5 need to close gap best of rest Bremen - solid pack of 5 (need to take off 30-40 sec) Northridge Prep Gordon Tech ( ?)
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Post by warner752 on Sept 26, 2007 20:25:59 GMT -5
Illiana ran conservative at Tinley Park this last weekend. Illiana Christian will be full force at the Lisle Mane Event this weekend. Yorkville and Wheaton St. Francis better watch out. I disagree with you 800man i think 2 schools will be in the top 10 at state.
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Post by 800man on Sept 26, 2007 20:40:09 GMT -5
Illiana ran conservative at Tinley Park this last weekend. Illiana Christian will be full force at the Lisle Mane Event this weekend. Yorkville and Wheaton St. Francis better watch out. I disagree with you 800man i think 2 schools will be in the top 10 at state. I'm glad someone has something to add here. Thanks Warner. I guess we will see then this weekend as there is several comparisons with Yorkville out there and a couple with St. Francis. As I stated, unless somebody makes a big surge here at the end of the season there won't be a top 10 team out of the Jones Sectional. I hope that is not true just for balance sake. Like last year and the southern "AA" sectional and all those teams finished in the bottom 10 out of 30.
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Post by acccoachk on Sept 26, 2007 21:18:31 GMT -5
There are at least 7 teams alone better at Belvidere better than anyone at the Jones Sectional, the next 3 teams would qualify out of Jones! and I mean no disrespect, WSF and IC are tough but here are the top 10 at Belvidere based on performance at the mid-point of the season
1. Sycamore---STATE CHAMPS 2. Crystal Lake Central--WILL CHALLENGE 3. Yorkville----THEIR TOP 5 ARE TOUGH! 4. Rock Island Alleman----TOP 3 STRONG-4,5 COMING ON! 5. Belvidere North---THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN ILLINOIS! 6. Kaneland---ALWAYS PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME! 7. Dixon------TOP 3 STRONG-4.5 ARE KEY! 8. Aurora Central Catholic---GOOD YOUNG TEAM-THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? 9. Burlington Central--TOP 2 ARE SOLID-3,4,5, MOVING UP 10. LAKES----SOLID PACK TEAM!
10. Lakes
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Post by 800man on Sept 27, 2007 14:21:53 GMT -5
There are at least 7 teams alone better at Belvidere better than anyone at the Jones Sectional, the next 3 teams would qualify out of Jones! and I mean no disrespect, WSF and IC are tough but here are the top 10 at Belvidere based on performance at the mid-point of the season 1. Sycamore---STATE CHAMPS 2. Crystal Lake Central--WILL CHALLENGE 3. Yorkville----THEIR TOP 5 ARE TOUGH! 4. Rock Island Alleman----TOP 3 STRONG-4,5 COMING ON! 5. Belvidere North---THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN ILLINOIS! 6. Kaneland---ALWAYS PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME! 7. Dixon------TOP 3 STRONG-4.5 ARE KEY! 8. Aurora Central Catholic---GOOD YOUNG TEAM-THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? 9. Burlington Central--TOP 2 ARE SOLID-3,4,5, MOVING UP 10. LAKES----SOLID PACK TEAM! At this point you're probably right. That's why I said right now this sectional will not provide a team that finishes in the top ten. At this point you're probably right. That's why I said right now this sectional will not provide a team that finishes in the top ten. I think WSF is a little stronger then Burlington Central though. As far as Belvidere a secret, I think most people know about them. They are a real young team too.
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Post by xc123 on Sept 27, 2007 14:45:14 GMT -5
i definitely think northridge prep is gonna be in the top five for the sectional. how bout the city kids, uhigh and/or latin, making it?
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Post by 800man on Sept 27, 2007 15:51:25 GMT -5
i definitely think northridge prep is gonna be in the top five for the sectional. how bout the city kids, uhigh and/or latin, making it? This sectional has the biggest question marks. There hasn't been any dominance or consistency shown yet by any of these teams. Again Wheaton St francis is appears to be the front runner but more info needs to be available before much else can be determined. U High, Latin, Gordon Tech, Lake View, Glenbard South, and Lemont all generally run at the Loyola meet this weekend. Throw in a good Chatham -Glenwood who has run there in the past and maybe we can learn something.
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Post by LemontXC17 on Sept 27, 2007 19:58:38 GMT -5
lemont wont be at the loyola meet this weekend. we are running at lockport.
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Post by runningmuth on Sept 29, 2007 16:01:27 GMT -5
illiana christian is for real and they will win this sectional. They have a very solid top five and are a team to watch for the top ten in State. I just saw them at the Lile invite and was very impressed with their team. If they run like that at their sectional st. francis is going to have a tough time matching them. This is still a question mark sectional, but as far as a top ten team in AA state, illiana christian is going to be real tough to keep out.
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Post by timothyjohnston3 on Oct 2, 2007 10:56:45 GMT -5
Call me odd, but from what I have seen, Northridge Prep is slated for a top 5 finish. I talked to the assistant coach of Their 3rd guy is running injured right now and has sat out half of the season. He just came back and is running hard. At the Niles West Invite, they ran a 15:38, 16:40, 2 guys at 17:05 and their 5th at 17:20. They have drastically improved throughout the season (everyone dropped a minute or more), and I believe they will continue to do so.
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Post by runninryan459 on Oct 9, 2007 21:13:48 GMT -5
Does anybody know what this course is like?
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Post by rollercoaster on Oct 9, 2007 22:08:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they are running at Niles West. That's the last I heard. Maybe ROCK can confirm.
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Post by warner752 on Oct 10, 2007 11:33:55 GMT -5
what is taht course like then?
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Post by xcrnr2 on Oct 10, 2007 13:13:23 GMT -5
If I remember correctly it there is about a 400m straight then a sharp left turn through a fence to get to the front loop then back through the fence around their practice fields with the finish on one of the baseball fields. the interesting thing is Niles West is hosting a 3A Sectional as well.
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Post by rollercoaster on Oct 10, 2007 17:27:53 GMT -5
3 loops, very flat, pretty fast. WIll be hosting 2A and 3A sectionals. I hope it doesn't rain. It will be a messy course if it does.
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Post by homeward67 on Oct 12, 2007 0:28:13 GMT -5
Replying about the city runners question:
Gordon has a junior in the 16:50 range latin has its top 2 in the 18:30 range Lake View is definitely the strongest city school, they were 3 people off the cutoff line for AAA so they are bringing two varsity runners, Alex Agafonov and Sirak Areki who are looking to go down state. They also have the #1 frosh-soph girls team in the city, that will be moving up to varsity so look out for them.
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Post by ROCK on Oct 12, 2007 7:05:24 GMT -5
It is at Niles West.
I'm not so sure that Lakeview has the #1 frosh-soph team in the city. Guess we'll find out this weekend. I do think Alex Agafonov and Sirak Areki have a shot at getting downstate, but they have to be better frontrunners.
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Post by run4fun on Oct 14, 2007 22:54:29 GMT -5
Any Results for the isl conference meet. I know that Northridge, Uhigh, Latin are in that conf this year. Wondering how those 3 teams are looking especially NR and Uhigh. The past few years both have had some pretty good teams, and I know Latin will typically have 1-2 good individuals. Thanks
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Post by blink84 on Oct 16, 2007 14:37:25 GMT -5
i think this sectional will be a very close race for the last 3 qualifying spots for teams looking at the conference meets, did glenbard south not run any of their best guys? or do they have good sophs that they ran at a lower level?
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Post by blink84 on Oct 16, 2007 14:39:51 GMT -5
Glenbard South has 3 Feshmen that have been running 7:30's. They will all be running at the regionals and sectionals and should put Glenbard South in a good spot.
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Post by 800man on Oct 16, 2007 16:20:59 GMT -5
There are at least 7 teams alone better at Belvidere better than anyone at the Jones Sectional, the next 3 teams would qualify out of Jones! and I mean no disrespect, WSF and IC are tough but here are the top 10 at Belvidere based on performance at the mid-point of the season 1. Sycamore---STATE CHAMPS 2. Crystal Lake Central--WILL CHALLENGE 3. Yorkville----THEIR TOP 5 ARE TOUGH! 4. Rock Island Alleman----TOP 3 STRONG-4,5 COMING ON! 5. Belvidere North---THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN ILLINOIS! 6. Kaneland---ALWAYS PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME! 7. Dixon------TOP 3 STRONG-4.5 ARE KEY! 8. Aurora Central Catholic---GOOD YOUNG TEAM-THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? 9. Burlington Central--TOP 2 ARE SOLID-3,4,5, MOVING UP 10. LAKES----SOLID PACK TEAM! I don't know if this is so true anymore. Illiana Christian looks real solid ( top ten in state ?) and possibly ahead of Belvedere North. Wheaton Academy was also ahead of ACC at the PSL meet and WSF is better than Wheaton Academy. Kaneland was very unimpressive at the Western Sun even if you add in their frosh/soph guys, they are still way back from Yorkville and Dekalb and not that much ahead of Glenbard South. I'm not saying this is the best sectional but at least there appears to be a couple decent teams there now. The Belvedere sectional is by far the toughest but it's not as tough as it once appeared. There should be two trophys going home to this sectional though.
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Post by xc123 on Oct 16, 2007 22:32:41 GMT -5
Any Results for the isl conference meet. I know that Northridge, Uhigh, Latin are in that conf this year. Wondering how those 3 teams are looking especially NR and Uhigh. The past few years both have had some pretty good teams, and I know Latin will typically have 1-2 good individuals. Thanks Northridge won with about 37 points, uhigh 43, Latin 85 and Parker in fourth. Northridge's number one won followed close behind by Parker's number one. This conference is definitely getting more competitive. Better times and more competition than recent years...not sure how things will work out at regionals/sectionals, but definitely will be interesting to see who gets the last one/two spots at sectionals.
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Post by 800man on Oct 19, 2007 15:11:39 GMT -5
Here are the current IPTT Sectional rankings ( Week 7 )
Chicago Jones Sectional 1 Lansing Illiana Christian 2 Wheaton St. Francis 3 Lemont 4 Melrose Park Walther Lutheran 5 West Chicago Wheaton Academy 6 Chicago University 7 Midlothian Bremen 8 Glen Ellyn Glenbard South 9 Riverside-Brookfield 10 Norridge Ridgewood
I agree with # 1 and #2. 3 through 5 are still a question mark for me. I think Wheaton Academy has a good shot. I don't think you can ever count out Glenbard South and Northridge Prep isn't even listed. They may have the Sectional winner on their team in Puschautz and when you start with a 1 in your team score who knows what may happen. And Bremen only lost to Lemont by 1 point ( 66 to 67 ) at their conference meet so....
This one is still too close to call.
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Post by strauss32 on Oct 21, 2007 10:05:05 GMT -5
bremen should be 4th or 5th, at regionals they lost to lemont by only a few points again. 52-58. what is going to be tough for them to get through is that their #5 runner has to do good
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Post by wpxc on Oct 21, 2007 11:43:38 GMT -5
I did some quick calculations on the girl's race and here's what I came up with:
Team Sectional Score State Rank Wheaton 56 15 St Francis 57 9 Lemont 93 10 Chicago U 97 Illiana 127 Tim C 182 GBS 202 Regina 216 Riverside Br 232 Payton 243 Latin 249 Hilcrest 261
The scores indicate a mock race based on performances from the Regional this weekend. I used the distances submitted on the IHSA pages to convert everyone to 3 miles. This assumes that all courses were equally flat (which may be incorrect, I'm not familiar with the other courses).
It's not a perfect mock up, but I figured it'd get some conversation started....
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Post by irun11 on Oct 21, 2007 17:05:01 GMT -5
bremen should be 4th or 5th, at regionals they lost to lemont by only a few points again. 52-58. what is going to be tough for them to get through is that their #5 runner has to do good i agree with u in that iptt's rankings for this sectional are seriously flawed. my take from regionals: 1. Illiana Christian after that it is up for grabs, teams with a shot at state (kind of in order) St Francis-probably #2 Lemont-good all around team Bremen-hurt by 5 runner Northridge Prep-unranked all season, front runner in Puschautz Wheaton Acadamy-great 1-4, hurt by 5 runner Walther Lutheran-hurt by 4and 5, very good 1-2 u-high-probably a long shot, no great 1runner the 2-6 or 7 places will be very close, it will be a great race i think. the 2-6 spots will be really tight, it should be a very close race
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Post by uhxc on Oct 21, 2007 20:46:25 GMT -5
I disagree with your points that U-High is a long shot to make it to state, and that they lack a true #1 runner. U-High is a very solid pack team and I believe they are far and away the 5th best team in this sectional. They have a good number 1, who has just recently emerged and their #2 and #3 runners each have the potential to run up with the #1. The #'s 4,5,6,7 are all pretty tightly packed and can hang with most of the runners in this sectional. The reason the times at the U-High regional look so slow is because the course was in bad condition and it was severely lengthed due to a lot of downed tree's. This team is fairly experienced and well coached and gave Northridge a very good run for its conference championship despite not having their #2 runner at full health. Prepare to be surprised, I know they are a city team and thus always ignored but U-high is perinially a very good team and this year is no exception
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